Troy Lee Designs Men's Mountain Bike Shorts - Skyline Short with Liner for Trail Riding & MTB Cycling | Durable Performance Gear for Off-Road Biking Adventures

CONS: Outer short was much darker than the representative photo, more of a dark blue than that snazzy high-vis blue in the photo.Liner is about one size too small relative to the shorts. One ride with them left ligature marks on my skinny thighs; felt like my legs were being choked. Maybe they’ll stretch with time…After the first wash much of the stitching holding the pad to the liner came apart and my entire wash load was wrapped in a cocoon of black thread, a giant mess. Per other reviews on this short it sounded like the liner short was a throwaway; pretty much seems to be the casePRO’S: all of the seams on the shorts are sewn rather than glued. A pair of ZOIC shorts I have that are less than a year old are all glued seams and they are all disintigrating. I’m confident these TL’s will hold up much better in the long run. On the bike they’re comfortable and easy to adjust with the Velcro custom fits straps on the waist ? iPhone SE easily fits in the pockets. zippers look quality.Despite the liner stitching self-destructing, the pad itself seems to be pretty good quality, the right density. Just not wearable because they are so tight. Hopefully they’ll get this bug figured out.Despite the liner problem, I’ll be keeping this these. A good durable short is getting hard to find and the TL’s seem to be some of the better ones I’ve used. I got plenty of other liner shorts so its easy to substitute but buyer beware if these are the only liners you’ll have